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More on Bill Gates, H-1B visas, and green cards

February 27, 2007

In my earlier posts on Bill Gates’ call in Sunday's Washington Post for more H-1B visas, I cited a post at MyDD.com elaborating on the starting salaries for H-1B visa holders at Microsoft. The MyDD post was cross-posted at DailyKos, and it generated some controversy in the comments section on why MyDD provided green-card salary information instead of H-1B visa salary information.

NetworkWorld has posted elaboration on this from Norm Matloff, a professor of computer science at the University of California at Davis, and Ron Hira, an assistant professor of public policy (on leave) at the Rochester Institute of Technology.

In a nutshell, the professors contend that most if not all green-card applicants sponsored by companies like Microsoft already have an H-1B visa. In addition, green-card salary information tends to be more accurate because each application corresponds to a specific individual already working for a specific salary. In contrast, companies may not immediately act on approved H-1B visa requests.

In addition, since green-card applicants have generally worked in the US for several years and on receiving a green card could seek employment at US companies other than their sponsor’s, I would expect them to have higher salaries. (That green-card salaries are considerably below what Gates’ claims for H-1B starting salaries further weakens his case.)

By the way, if you want to download the salary data yourself and have a lot of bandwidth, you can go here.

Finally, let me respond to this comment left on MyDD: “The whole issue that's missing from this debate is that immigration of intelligent people actually creates more jobs than it consumes.”

I agree, that’s often the case. But the proponents of expanding the visa program need to be much more upfront and accurate with their arguments.


Posted by Rick Nelson on February 27, 2007 | Comments (1)


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March 2, 2007
In response to: More on Bill Gates, H-1B visas, and green cards
Richard commented:

One needs to consider that when one interferes with the laws of supply and demand, that there are other effects (some detrimental). One of these is the continuing decline of engineering students from the US, as starting salaries are not what they would be if engineers were in shorter supply (no H1-B visas), thus discouraging new engineering students.





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