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  • More on the GM and EPA 230-mpg controversy (updated)

    August 27, 2009

    Here’s a follow-up my earlier post "GM in cahoots with EPA makes up 230-mpg number." The Wall Street Journal reports that the rating does not take into account any mpg equivalent of the electricity obtained by plugging in the car. That confirms my suspicion that GM would claim that anyone driving less than 40 miles per day could get infinite mileage.

    The Journal further reports, "GM’s [Jon Lauckner, vice president of global product planning] says the company based its numbers on EPA draft regulations. An EPA spokeswoman says the agency doesn’t have a draft available for public consumption."

    Hey, a draft that’s good for GM should be good for the public.

    Charles J. Murray at Design News has more in "Controversy Surrounds Miles-Per-Gallon Numbers for Electric Cars." He elaborates on Nissan’s claims for its all-electric Leaf: "Nissan, which published its 367-mpg number within days of GM’s announcement, said it also employed an EPA methodology. The company’s calculation was simpler; however, because the Leaf operates only on battery power. Nissan told Design News that the Leaf currently consumes 0.223 kW-hr/mile. Using an EPA-based figure of 82.049 kW-hr/gal, Nissan engineers calculated the car’s miles-per-gallon equivalency to be 367 miles, said Scott Vazin, director of product communications for Nissan and Infiniti."

    "The Progressive Auto X Prize Foundation has suggested that the auto industry adopt a miles-per-gallon equivalency standard (MPGe) that would provide a single answer, no matter whether the vehicle was powered by gasoline, electricity, or some other alternative means," writes Murray. He continues, "GM told Design News that it supports the idea of a standard method, but for now it is sticking with the EPA’s draft methodology. ‘At this stage, we’re building awareness for the Volt, and it’s important for us to communicate a metric that people understand," [GM spokesman Rob] Peterson said. "We’re not going to say that the Volt is burning so-many joules to the mile. Nobody would understand that."

    A couple of notes on the comments on my earlier post: pgdion chided me for implying a conspiracy between GM and the EPA. Well, GM seems to have a copy of the EPA’s draft regulations, and we don’t.

    Ben commented that an ICE is 20 to 25% efficient, while an electric engine can be 95% efficient. But a power plant producing the electricity for the engine, while better than an internal combustion engine, is no where near 95% efficient. You just cannot escape the Carnot engine limitation.

    The controversy reminds John P. Guckel of the audio wars of years gone by: watts, RMS watts, and instantaneous peak power. He adds, "I will say that you really can’t fault [GM] for creativity. Marketing will never change. The only constant on this planet is engineering based on fact, not fiction and dreaming."

    Pit Lab seems to be recommending a perpetual-motion machine as part of the powertrain. Good luck with that.


    Update (August 28): "Electric Hummer H3E by Raser Drives over 50 Miles on Batteries in Test Drive. Test Data Shows New Electric SUV Could Achieve more than 190 mpg in City Driving Applying Similar Method Used by General Motors." Thanks to Mark T. Hoske at Control Engineering for the tip.


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    Posted by Rick Nelson on August 27, 2009 | Comments (3)
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  • August 31, 2009
    In response to: More on the GM and EPA 230-mpg controversy (updated)
    El Duce commented:

    Nothing to see here. Move along, move along! Just ignore that man behind the curtain. Obama-owned Government Motors (GM) can just talk to the government regulator (EPA) to use whatever MPG number they want. Don't question the authorities! This is an easy way to crowd out competition from this newly founded gov't monopoly. After all, it's for a good cause; the American citizens need their money back from GM. El Duce, Benito Mussolini, would be proud.....


    August 28, 2009
    In response to: More on the GM and EPA 230-mpg controversy (updated)
    Eric Kinast commented:

    A single number will never reflect the ecconomy of a multi-fuel vehicle. Trying to make comparisions to equate kWhr to gallons is futile, becuse the consumer cares about cost, and the cost of these commodities varies widely. Even in one locality there are huge variations. For example, my utility has tiered electric rates (as do most in urban centers), so while my first few kWhr cost about 12 cents, the ones that would recharge a car would be added on top of my present useage, and be billed at 25 to 31 cents per kWhr. If GM really wanted to give consumers an idea of what to expect, they would put a little calculator app on their website. You could enter the following: YOUR cost of gas per gallon. YOUR cost of electricity per kWhr. Miles to be driven. Type of trip (local, highway, mixed). Click OK, and the estimated energy cost in dollars for the trip is calculated. You could easily compare this with your current costs of your gas-only car. GM will probably never do this, because it would cause the hype of the Volt to evaporate. They have already admitted that the 230 MPG figure does not include the cost of the electricity used. Yet, using reasonable engineering calculations (see note below), at my tiered electric rate, I do not see electricity as being any less costly than the gasoline it replaces. Consequently, operating the Volt would actually cost about the same as any other hybrid claiming an ~40 MPG gas-only fuel economy. NOTE: Many published attempts to compare gasoline and elecricity are flawed, because they base computations on the theoretical chemical energy in a gallon of gasoline vs a kWhr of electricity (3600 kJ). However, it is necessary to account for the low efficiency of even the best internal combustion engines and losses in the hybrid power train, which seems to be rarely done correctly. A more direct and accurate method is to determine the kWhr used in recharging (somewhat more than the battery capacity, as charging is not lossless) and divide by the claimed "electric only" distance. This gives you kWhr/mile, from which you can compute the cost per mile.


    August 27, 2009
    In response to: More on the GM and EPA 230-mpg controversy (updated)
    Meredith Poor commented:

    A Joule is a watt-second is a Calorie, so being told a car needs 12 kilowatt-hours to go forty miles is as good a metric as any. Even then, however, there are a couple of problems: regenerative braking makes comparisons 'unfair', and building solar cells into the roof would make metering use a bit more involved. And of course, recharging at home means you don't drive to a gas station. Consumers are now having to think about their energy footprint, and milage alone is pretty useless. One has to consider the cost of replacing a car, buying food for home cooking vs eating out, and buying goods made out of plastic in comparison to goods made out of metal or glass. This is further complicated when apparently minor changes or improvements in technology affect costs on a large scale. It might be better for the EPA to publish the 'footprint' equivalent, which shows how much carbon is emitted when recharging a hybrid from a coal plant, a natural gas plant, wind turbines, or hydroelectric. The car dealer could display a poster showing the mix of generation options in use in that area. This is all fine print. Most people wouldn't pay any attention.

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